This is why this house also holds our hidden enemies. An at one point he came to me, looked me in the eyesand asked me: " do I know you?" Despite their great physical attraction towards each other, the Venus person often feels saturated with mystery and attraction of the 8th house. I dont think I can give a uniform answer as to how planets behave in the other persons 12th house. I wish you luck in dealing with your guy; maybe it will turn out sweeter than what I went through. Infatuation can't run this deep. why am I'm alone. Now i understand the mystery of the house that touch our soul. With him, it's never "goodbye," no matter what. In other words he wanted us to remain in a hidden while he is married and has political career. when i came back there was this weird thing between us. From there on, things never became the same anymore. I loved his soul. I have neptune (Sagitarius) in my 7th house with Gemini rising. http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29420, http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14081. Hanging onto him and wishing for return engagements may bring you much heartache, and even loss he might be a sociopath and if that is how he rolls you could lose much in the ways of material goods. I feel lost a lot of the time, but feel even more lost and dead inside whenever I walk away from him, but I never stay gone for too long, even though I claim I will never come back. Months passed, in where I was writing him letters, telling him about life, telling him about astrology. Sometimes because we were deluded by the other, sometimes because we deluded ourselves, or saw things that were not really there at all, we felt they were, but that's not what they were. Plus we both have gemini suns. Most sources will tell you that the twelfth house overlay is not good for relationships. I kept believing he felt the same as I did, but that for this reason he couldnt give into it. But he is confused how I feel this way without needing anything. Those this mean that he's thinking about me a lot too? I love everything about astrology. I resonate with the guy you wrote about in your article. Then when I tell him, he has this quiet way of breaking through all the **** and getting to the heart of it, but in a really gentle way. My sun, mercury, Venus and Jupiter conjunct his Pluto in the 12th. Although my guy is very vulnerable with me as well, he is still more controlled than I, in the sharing of deeper things (probably his Scorp rising). Some are evil and just want to get in your pants. Relationships that take place here( 2 or more planets in this house) offer a great deal of healing, self undoing, and even unconditional love but it's not easy to navigate. I recent discover my crush has his Mars in my 12th conjunct my Ascendant. The 12th House!! My Sun, Venus and MErcury are in Aries and fall into his 12th, my moon in Sagittarius falls int his 7th and 8th and his moon in Scorpio into my 5th and his jupiter into my 1st. I don't know if I am able to, honestly.This really feels like karmic bond. Will this ever end!?!?? I would love to here anyone's feedback. Oh lord: Hi, Steph sorry for the long delay in responding. It's amazing. You know how you feel different in a dream but it's very real? Thanks for the 12th house information. Often, there is a distinct feeling of mistrust in these scenarios, especially on the part of the planet person. Its been a year since we last saw each other and 5 months since we last spoke. but I CAN (4-Sag placement, counting the PF), and thus I DID. Its a bit of a puzzle, really, and I may not be explaining it clearly, but I do see what you mean, Elsa, in mirroring tendencies. I never even considered he couldve liked me because everyone liked him and every time I think he tried to tell me I shut him down cause I didnt want to be one of his conquests. Im afraid he would stifle me and kill my spirit from the inside out. We face the same situation when someone touch our 12th house. Not too hard for me to figure out, even though for years I was dodging it. The feeling that I am the only one dealing with the 12th house issues is so painful. SYNASTRY: NORTH AND SOUTH NODE CONNECTIONS. Am thankful that noting bad occurred from him, but there was the feeling that he could and would hurt me. This is a very private house, and it holds all of our self conscious fears, most of the time we don't like this house activated especially if this is a person that will use this against us.If the Mars person is selfish and self-serving, he or she may use their knowledge of your bad habits, blind spots and personality weaknesses to manipulate or hurt you. i have a guy who i'm so into him , he have his sun, venus, mercury and jupiter in gemini on my 12th house. I feel like he's not being completely honest with me and himself about how he feels about me. maybe it was some inner knowledge of how he is deep inside. and it was unreal and he sat down at our table and I felt like my entire body was on fire. You have a tendency to fall in love with people who re not available, and . He has sun conjunct saturn and he also has it with me in synastry as well as my daughter. He was so familiar, which I think it's because of the NN connections. He acts like hes in love with me, he acts like he cares deeply for me, hes there for me and has even held me while I cried. Any help would be greatly appreciated.p.s., any planet people willing to share their experience with their planets in someone's 12th would also be appreciated, As far as who feels what.. it would make sense they both would feel it since one persons planet is being housed ( in a environment) therefore the planet is being influenced also by the house person in their approach and the others is bringing the energy influence. During the night I could feel his eyes, some times resting on me. THAT is a swift ender for my 3-placement Leo (read: THE QUEEN) who became TOTALLY OFFENDED by his antics. it doesn't work or they don't like me? Its difficultto tell whats going on here. Double whammies. But I still hope. I understand this. Him: Cancer sun/moon, Libra rising, Gemini Venus Me: Libra sun, leo moon, Gemini rising , Scorpio Venus. What he/she hates in something, i can see that they do the same thing, but they cant see it. I felt this awful DREAD of him mixed in with the deep love longings that I held in my heart, and would just burst out CRYING whenever I felt his spirit coming near me. I'm very new here so read at your own risk! If he has Moon/Cancer, just know that you are dealing with an emotional and sensitive soul, which of course will make him insecure in his dealings with you. The North Node represents our souls goal in this l Mercury in Partners 1st house You will inspire easy communication with your partner. The 12th house person can annoy Mars because of the lack of immediate action. When dealing with the spirit world, there are both positive and negative, you know good and bad people and spirits. But yet together telepathically and spirtually. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a, Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000 Especially natal charts and composite charts. does the planet that falls in your 12th aspect anything else in your chart? Hi, Name Again. What do you think? Most often, this includes banking, art and value-related activities. I really felt that I WAS him that is, until he started bashing me mentally and spiritually. Maybe its fortuitous that it ended early for you, sweetie. It felt a bit cruel because he acted as if he was so I felt led on as he observed me slowly falling in love Anyway With my heavy Saturn influence ( Venus in cancer in 10th opposite Saturn + stellium in 4th house) I dont do well with non committed relationships and I felt what he did lacked integrity so I just left it there as I would not have been fulfilled. He is much older than me, far better positioned, with flaws, yet a hero to me. Good- have found your posting your threads really helpful to me too..trying to suss all this out too! I can only state that my 12th Houser ended up pretty much devastating me perhaps it was because of his Sun/Gemini in my 12th House and my Vwnus/Sag in his 12th House. Kinda like that, it can be magical, spiritual, and present us with unconditonal love that wasn't meant to live in this world. I'm not all that great with articulating stuff that's not of this world. But really what you also might be feeling is the Pluto Square Sun as well, that is another energy in itself that draws two people like Moth to flame:) the 12th house has roots in the past and most certainly is Karmic so perhaps that explains why it can go either way. He enjoyed the attention and games for sure and he had a Gemini ruled 12th house. In all cases this is really karmic moment. I would even go so far to say that they may be SPs (sociopaths); these people seem to have a DEVIL deep inside of them . This is the area of life devoted to spirituality, imagination, confining institutions, and secret enemies, the hidden side of life; in synastry, the impact of one person's planets on another's 12th House indicates the manner in which they affect their spiritual experience and either promote or retard the other's own self-undoing. Explore the synastry between you and your partner Composite Chart / Synastry Report Bundle. It's true this house can be heavy, it's the house of hospitals, psychotherapist, prisons, too. Generally when venus is other persons 12th house, its effect depends on is Venus strong by sign? Or someone is misleading someone (deliberately or otherwise). We also have vertex conjuct Asc. This is because the two individuals want the same type of love relationship--they give and receive love in the same manner. Everything has a timing. I started with an other guy, who is really good for me and is a good match. As somebody with a 10th house stellium, including Mars, Moon, & Venus with Aries on the midheavenif somebody fails to openly display their feelings for me, Im gone. The Ascendant person feels an unconditional love when the other one is around. He was and is also a very adroit liar, and even though there was very great chemistry and connectedness between us, I had to end it. The 12th House & Synastry When you have a 12th house connection in synastry and your natal planets fall in their 12th house, this can make you have difficulties expressing whatever that planet governs in the relationship (or vice versa if it's their natal planet falling in your 12th house). Hes not cold at all. He turned out to be one dark character and a real piece of work, and it took me nearly 3 years with all SORTS of ups and downs, bumps and bruises, to get over him so that I could outs him from my spirit. When they found out about him talking to me they were furious that he never told me about THEM! How does it affect synastry when one partners personal planets land in the others 12th house? I forgot to say my venus is in his first house and when we met it was like that scene from twilight where Edward walks into the cafeteria in slow motion, the wind was blowing (indoors!) On top of this, his Pluto is either square or conjunction my NN, Im pretty sure its the square. I can sense when he needs something even when he isn't next to me. It's not of this world, it's spiritual and I don't mean you go to church together spiritual but it's certainly possible. To the point it's hard to explain to others especially because we're no longer together. He indeed often told me that we do have a strong connection. The water faucet with no shut off valve, lol. If neither one has any issues like these then the relationship does not need to take on such a heavy role and can then be about many of the positive aspects of this house. It turned into something of a horror show, and although I made the decision to cut all ties, every time I would weaken and go back I would get BLUDGEONED emotionally and psychically. But I guess with the 12th house influence I may never know. I'm so sad that he choose to be with someone else. But afflicted venus indicates the negative effects of the venus/ neptune aspects. The Sun in 11th house synastry overlay creates an atmosphere of friendship between you. Birthday Report Package Deluxe Transit Report 1 Year Get A Natal Chart ReportProgressed Chart Report Deluxe Asteroids Report Get A Solar Return Report Get A Lunar Return Report Child Natal Report 1 Year Transit Report Outer Planets, Find Your Soulmate Saturn Transit the 12th House Using Astrology To Get What You Want, Predicting Violence In Relationship: Mars in Synastry. Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000 Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a. but initially he said so many kind words to me. after 2/3 months later i came to know that he has girlfriend somewhere in another country. My Jupiter falls into this man, I no longer with but had a deep connection. Venus is the Roman counterpart to the Greek goddess, Aphrodite, and she is the female counterpart of the Roman god of war and conquest, Mars, who is also the namesake of one of the big eight planets in astrology. Two+ years in most cases (which makes me want to just go HIDE in my bed under the covers, lol!) His Venus is also conjunct my Pluto and we also have Venus square Venus. Long story short, we both loved each other but it didn't work out for various reasons (I suspect fear and insecurity was the main issue - karmic connection). We may still be able to figure it out. My 12th-Houser Sun/Gem Moon/Sag BROUGHT OUT MY OWN GEMINI COMPORTMENT, and then I also remembered that I had started out as Twins but that my Twin didnt make it in the womb. This happens for me with my Neptune in the 1st house I can take in people's feelings, illness or a array of different things that pass through me temporarily. Thanks Zahara, what you say makes sense. These are actions of some type. His Mars is conjunct my Moon and North Lunar Node which made it all the more compelling; his Neptune/Scorpio (which is Retrograde) is conjunct my 5th House Venus, and his Uranus and Pluto fall in my 3rd House where my IC is. Designed to help you in the 1 minute it takes to read them. Negatively, the planet person can use any of these fears as a way to control them, manipulate them or to use against them in some way. I ran into him the other day out of the blue and he said hi but it was too painful for me to even confront him and I was so mad for so long. I guess some things are just not meant to be. This is especially true if that person's Venus is conjunct your ascendant (the more tightly conjunct, the stronger the attraction). How do you reckon you and him approach 12th house matters like spirituality, illusion, Neptune stuff? Absolutely killing me .He was in love then all of a sudden he wasn't and said we couldn't sleep together anymore . Venus in the Houses in Synastry. I just recently met someone by accident online (a learning site.) I have Jupiter sun and mars in his 12th house in cancer and I really hope I didnt hurt him. What I have found in common is that they both were very aggressive, affectionate and attached to me at the beginning, but once after, i state to feel I dont know them or what their true intentions are, and left me somehow insecure and confused. In hindsight, I now believe that my 12th Houser is just that. JavaScript is disabled. He makes me breakdown so many barriers. I wonder what the key is to making these unusual relationships work.. http://www.nodeorama.com/viewtopic.php?id=2480, http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6930. GOD-awful!! So Im confused about being confused lol Im dating someone all of our planets are 12th house but my natal chart is 12th house filled already.. everyone in his family knows about me and everyone in my family knows about him they know were also expecting a baby and so does social media lol .. I wish you lick with your 12th Houser, but there is a saying that 12th House connections are doomed to fail at least at one point. It just went down a long and winding road until it got out of control. I dont have other words for that. Maybe we should all listen to our inner voices; intuitively we always KNOW who is bad or good. and in only one instance where the connection has lasted throughout many years with us now being friends, of sorts. When wondering around in someones 12th or they in yours? It rules creativity, beauty, diplomacy the arts and is representative of our physical and tangible . In fact, I was his spiritual company for more than the twenty years we spent apart. Im terribly afraid of this 12th house. The first thing to . hello, does anyone by any chance have any experience with venus being in the 12th house within synastry? He seem to know all about me even i don't tell or exposed my darkest psyche to him. Also, yes this is definitely a karmic situation. It's probably love bordering on obsession. I have found myself on a couple of occasions asking, "Why in the world did I just tell him that?" I also faced this same situation from my present crush whom he married with the woman same as my first ex BF criteria. Just cant get past my Gemini obsessions, I guess. You need to be clear in areas such as this, find out why you met this person or they you? Now i know why. thus I didnt want to be like him. The house person will feel good with the Venus person and they will share a psychic connection that is quite powerful. I cared abt him so much but I read that the mars person is the antagonist. I never know what hes thinking, which is rare for me. It is strange how much this makes sense: I have my moon in his 12 house and he's got his Neptune in my 12. and weirdly 12th house does later show the othher person to live in those shoes. He brings my daughter candy and buys her ice cream and toys. Wow! Its possible the blind spot is yours, not his. NO THANKS!!! One who never had to deal with neptune before would have it very difficult to submerge themselves past the toes dipping. Feeling an intense attraction but beyond the physical, even that he was the personification for what I find attractive in the opposite sex. We have our suns, moons, venus and mars all the same sign and his neptune falls into my 12th house. SPOOKY!! I dont want him anymore as he rejected me but I cant help but stop thinking about him. Only because I feel his Mars in my subconscious,yelling at me to do better and not understanding that I dont respond well to that. I can feel him, seeing many good things in him that he never aware. All of the guys whom I'm involved above have stellium especially benefic planets in my 12th house. Maybe he bonds with us well because the three if us have gemini suns. Ya, I think we both feel a very strange draw to the other. And that he doesn't know what is good for him. Trish how did you get over it!?! Obsessive, perhaps a bit and with your planets in the 8th I am sure it's not one way:). Tabitha has Venus in 12th House Pisces. Every time I talk to him about something, I feel loved and at peace. But as his Sun is caught up in my 12th House, he now and then tries to make an appearance. The subconscious is full of stuff that we don't even know about, not consciously anyway but our dreams often show us what's in here. The relationship functions mostly on an unconscious level and there is often much misunderstood or misinterpreted if you arent very clear in your speaking with each other. Even when on partner likes the other one partner would not want to be seen with the other person for whatever reasons as in maybe wanting to keep their option open; definitely a "behind the scenes" situation. As you said, these people were my ideal. We had an affair that was hidden, even though I would have given everything to be with him full time. I actually feel I treated him wrong although he was a person whos been there for me when I was going through the hard time. Hi,this is illuminating reading for me :)Recently one man has very special influence on me and his Sun, Mars, Moon and Mercury (although Mercury is very close to my Asc) fall in my 12th house.He just gets me like no one does, or ever did. With the negative aspect, the "Plutonian" personality can show jealousy and possessive tendencies toward the "Venusian" one, trying . No way, jose. lol He also has his Mercury conjuncting my Sun in the 8th house and his Venus conjuncts my Venus as well as his Mars conjuncts my Mars. Just count your blessings for the dance you experienced, and move on to someone/something new. I have recently encountered a gentleman whose Gem Sun, Mercury, Tau Mars and North Node falls in my 12th. Are you afraid to admit your feelings? Venus in the 12th house Synastry ( Love that's hard to catch) - YouTube When Venus falls into ones 12th house things can get very tricky and vague. I believe it caused a lot of confusing both for him n I. Otherwise we kind of don't touch. Its surprising how much love I have for him but it all seems so complicated in his head/heart that I choose not to act on my feelings and just let time do its job. ( also his merc, pluto and uranus are in my 12th). And it is an easy relationship. Im all thumbs up, though, for those who do not nave the bad effects of a 12th House synastry. I mean your spirits are communicating with each other, that type of thing. Hi, 12th house placements are highly impressionable, they stay with you long after because it's a highly idealized house, be careful you can easily fool yourself. I've also found when we fought and were out of touch, I could feel how upset and rattled he was when he couldn't reach me. Plus his venus is in cancer and my north node and asc are in cancer. November 9, 2012 astrologyanonymous27 5 Comments. As somebody with a 10th house stellium, including Mars, Moon, & Venus with Aries on the midheaven-if somebody fails to openly display their feelings for me, I'm gone. He does tell me how he feels about me. Sent 3-5 times a week. Double whammies in my opinion are like gateways of energy between the two people the energy is mutual, open, and receptive- going both ways. It's like they can talk about everythng and anything and often don't even realize it. hes not so emotional with words but he is in action. It means he needs to work through then and the only way to do this is to, effectively lie to you, so he can havevtgecspace he needs to work through his issues. i, how ever, have only dreamt of someone who has moon in my 12th .the other person i have dreamt of has nothing in my 12th. For instance, my Sun and Venus land in the 12th house of my ex/long term best friend. It's crazy. However, I still cannot get him out of my headlike there is no better man out there. However, I have a group of planets that fall my husbands twelfth house and hes had no complaint with it. It's very common to do with placements in this house. I had a very strong, sexy, DARK, dangerous and tumoultous tete-a-tete with a Sun/Gem Moon/Sag guy which put my Venus/Sag SMACK in his 12th House! It's such a surreal feeling. I would also like to know more about 12th house synastry, as I have my venus, mars and jupiter in someone's 12th house (he has no planets in there). My Moon quincunx his Moon. The last one who was a crush had his Leo sun in my 12th. We exist in very different worlds and it just is not convenient to tell him. Can he just not see it because of this placement? ------------------Air woman. Guess that his Sun/Gem didnt like me pursuing him, but he toyed with me from time to time as he was, natch, curious about how I worked. Venus in the 12 th House The Venus person functions in a manner that increases the House person's self-confidence. In the synastry between my husband and myself, my Mars and Saturn lands in his 12th house. My heart tells me he secretly feels the same way, but the 12th house can have issues of delusion, so only time will truly tell. Required fields are marked *. Posts: 354From: united statesRegistered: May 2009, Copyright 2000-2014 We have opposite rising signs. We started off some kind of bizar friendship in where I felt like a teacher towards a child, I always pulling, he always coming towards me, and then everytime when he came, he ran away, literally, like he got burned or something. Venus is considered a Benefic, which means that this planet tends to bring good fortune. His sun, mercury, Neptune fall in my 8th house. I even took a sleep aid and could not sleep. The 12th house rules things. I can confirm that he appears in my dreams often and usually these are precognitive dreams. When someone's planet (s) fall in your twelfth house, you might feel somewhat unsettled, and you might find that your partner finds you somewhat elusive as well. Anyone else care to share? But I have to work with him and Im afraid he can realize and maybe use this against me. Hey! Sign up for my free newsletter offering astrology forecasts, tips and tricks! More so after 15 years. Here is a formula: Unless a guy acknowledges his feelings for you within a month, maybe 2 months (or 10+ dates) of serious dating openly, plainly, simply, without subtext, without mindgames or alternate plan Bs in his head,drop him. I can relate to most that has been said: Psychic, Fated, Spiritual, highly-accepting, Secretive & perhaps in ways obsessional/unrequited. Can someone help shed some light to what it means? The general claim is that it disturbs the person whose twelfth house is activated. He never forgot and it almost feels like he is watching me closely on social media. In future, i'll try to do some research about this mysterious house according to my religion. we are creepy to them, but cant seem to let us go. The 12th house is karmic for both for good or not so good both come through this house.:). Venus in 10th House synastry indicates a kind of built in security since both partners feel comfortable with their relationship no matter where they end up geographically. was it really necessary to get hurt in a same manner once again after 7 years? This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. I need help with my situation. Specific to you, the overlay situation might have some play here, but my guess is that theres more to this story. Now, the twelfth house is a tricky house when it is activated in synastry. This could be the unconditional kind of love people look for, its about whether or not you can handle it. Thats one thing I have been thinking about since reading other threads on the subject..also what house does your Venus fall in in his chart? At least I know I'm not the only one who is going through this. Hi Aida, very interesting what you say.. Well you know, Neptune rules the 12th house, which is idealization, so in a sense these people will appear to be our ideal! I agree with your experience. I am very partnered elsewhere in my life but looked up his chart because he feels like family or someone i knew in a past life or something. Ill blink and its 1am. because it hurts to know this about yourself, or just accept it. I have not experienced personal planets in particular Sun, Moon, Venus, and Mars as being all that great placed inside the 12th house. And if they are thus planted in your 12th House, soon the fun begins with you feeling like you were run over by a truck or a fast-moving train. this was all chinese for him but for me it was the confirmation Of I had felled. Sadly to say those attractions/connections do NOT work out well and the relationships are of short duration, for the most part. I trust everything happens for a reason! It's as if its a fairytale, make belive love and Im in a dream. i did not have any dreams of them. Do you guys think it's possible to have a (happy) relationship with this placement?Looks like it always turns sour. I act so stupid around him and he makes it hard for me to think properly at all. In this case, the partner will have different tastes. But I always wonder if he feels the same because the 12th house is illusive, So many sites / people say that it is only the house person that will be affected / obsessed. I can not understand entirely the situation just based on those aspects there is a lot to Astrology I would need to see all the charts in order to properly comment any further.