It reminds me of Goro Akechi in Persona 5 in terms of the fans who don't like him being reductive of his trauma. And this is why men don't get fucking therapy when they need to it heal from thier trauma, thanks for coming to my Ted Talk. That you can't bring back someone who doesn't have the will to live. In the original novel : WWX actually commit suicide. Jiang Cheng and Lan Wangji navigate life after Wei Wuxian's death and are forced together by fate (Nie Huaisang) before choosing to stay by each other's side. So I think he still loves WWX in the way that people love their siblings no matter what. he doesn't love him either. I was expecting it, anticipating it even. [44], Jiang Cheng clangs two swords together to overpower the sound of Jin Guangyao's guqin. I don't think it is that he did not feel guilty (he feel guilty enough to autodestruct in order to break the stygian seal), but that he cannot accept that guilt because that mean that his decision to protect the Wens is something to regret. The golden core reveal hits him so hard, imo, because it shifts his perspective and forces him to start seeing evens from WWX's eyes, not just his own. But no Jiang Cheng doesn't care about that, he just wants all the Wens dead because of the actions of two people. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. According to various people in the novel including Wei Wuxian, he died because his powers backfired, and he was ripped to pieces by his corpses as a result, but nobody ever says that it happened when he destroyed the Stygian Tiger Seal. .ehsOqYO6dxn_Pf9Dzwu37{margin-top:0;overflow:visible}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu{height:24px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu{border-radius:2px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:focus,._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:hover{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-navIconFaded10);outline:none}._38GxRFSqSC-Z2VLi5Xzkjy{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT{border-top:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);cursor:pointer;padding:8px 16px 8px 8px;text-transform:none}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT:hover{background-color:#0079d3;border:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-body)} Japan is dubbing it and they're a lot less censored in their anime content but other than the opening and ending and melodies I don't think they reanimated it to make it less censored. To his dismay, Yu Ziyuan orders the doors closed. He is now a Jiang, the most coveted omega of his generation all throughout the kingdom of YunMeng, second to none. Lan Zhang also said that he looked for clues in the Nightless City and found out that the zombies didn't actually backfire on him. An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works Yes. Join the online community, create your anime and manga list, read reviews, explore the forums, follow news, and so much more! Besides I don't know what to think about this falling scene. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. As with any tragic hero, Ning's irreversible mistake is surrendering himself to the Jin Sect in an effort to help Wei Wuxian. He 'hates' WWX more as a reflection of his own shortcomings / circumstance and because he's not the most emotionally mature and can be capable of avoiding the easy route of blaming the most convenient person. And hes a clown I think one of the reasons he hates wwx that he always wanted to find someone to put all the blame and sadness on, JC can't hate WWX, even he himself said "shouldn't I hate you, can't I hate you?". Point is, I think, he knew the other dudes he was torturing were not WWX, so he just used them as dummies for his little anger problems, and when he saw WWX resurrected and shameless ofc he just wanted to release his anger, that's why he patted him gently on the back with Zidian. Voice Actor (Japanese) Read the topic about Jiang Cheng and Wei WuXian's relationship on MyAnimeList, and join in the discussion on the largest online anime and manga database in the world! You dont get to always hide behind anger and let the world burn around you, not employing a single moment of logic and faith. Press J to jump to the feed. A subreddit dedicated to fans, by fans, of all versions and adaptations of Mo Dao Zu Shi! But the most compelling for it to be suicide is that Wei wuxian himself made it clear to Xue Yang that a soul who has no desire to be in this world cannot be summoned back. [44], Jin Ling runs away from Lotus Pier to seek Wei Wuxian, and Jiang Cheng follows to seek his nephew. I think JC walking away shaking his head was more of a "What a shame/What a waste" type of head shake instead of "There he goes with his tricks/antics again.". Jiang Cheng blames Wei Wuxian for the death of his brother-in-law when Wei Wuxian lost control of Wen Ning while learning how to control corpses. But he cannot because he knows it was motivated by good intentions and righteous actions. ._1x9diBHPBP-hL1JiwUwJ5J{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:#ff585b;padding-left:3px;padding-right:24px}._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4{height:16px;padding-right:4px;vertical-align:top}.icon._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5{height:20px;vertical-align:middle;padding-right:8px}.QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{height:18px;padding-right:8px;vertical-align:top}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 .QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)} before (or even as he was) dying he destroyed the amulet. Jiang cheng and wei wuxian's complicated relationship; Summary. [45], Jiang Cheng then turns his anger towards Jin Guangyao, especially after Jin Guangyao admits he had sent Jin Zixuan to the confrontation on Qiongqi Path, although Jin Guangyao maintains that he had not intended for Wei Wuxian to kill Jin Zixuan. Yu Ziyuan is infuriated, and turns her anger on her son when he defends Wei Wuxian, reminding him that Wei Wuxian still surpasses him in cultivation. Fairy leads him to the Guanyin Temple, where he discovers Jin Ling, Wei Wuxian, Lan Wangji, Lan Xichen, and Nie Huaisang all held captive by Su She and Jin Guangyao. I finished the novel because I wanted to know what happens (and because I want to see weiying and jiangcheng talk shit out WHICH THEY DONT OMFG GUYS PLS) but yea. And if he did hear summons over the 13yrs and ignored it why did he answer this time? He has little manpower, no experience, minimal coffers, and the human equivalent of a nuclear bomb that everyone either wants or wants to destroyed. Status ._3bX7W3J0lU78fp7cayvNxx{max-width:208px;text-align:center} Welcome to r/MoDaZuShi! An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works Other cultivators were actively trying to provoke WWX, but in the end he kind of made his own decisions that brought about devastating results. Even if JC shouted that to the whole world, it wouldn't matter simply because WWX blindly gave his golden core to JC. [6], At the training, Jiang Cheng warns Wei Wuxian not to start trouble after noticing that the dangerous Wen Zhuliu guards their pompous leader, Wen Chao. The two get off to a rocky start, as Wei Wuxian is terrified of dogs, and Jiang Cheng is forced to get rid of his pets for his new brother. Also, I like the thought that he doesnt want to regret the decision to protect the Wen people. In the novel, he leads the siege on burial mounds that results in WWX's death. after the golden core reveal, he can no long justify his reasons for hating wwx. Now that's all the numbers of reasons I think Jiang Cheng wronged Wei Wuxian and others mainly because he was choosing to look the other way or because he was acting like a spoiled brat. Probably even his title (Sandu Shengshou) is thanks to a golden core that isn't his. And throughout the novel, Manga and Anime she is not the type of person to take things lying down and is a fierce Cultivator who knows how to put those who she deems . It made me so sad because at one scene WWX was like lets not bottle our feelings, we should talk it out when JC was upset due to his fathers favoritism. He hated those people and felt WWX was siding with his parents murderers. No, he doesn't hate Wei Wuxian, but I don't think the brotherly love is there anymore. He reveals that he had been devastated when Wei Wuxian left the Yunmeng Jiang Clan and broken his promise to be the Twin Prides of Yunmeng with him. Lan Wangji: In the Cloud Recesses flashback, Nie Huaisang says that he is the same age as Wei Wuxian and himself, which would be 15. Media Part 1 of You're coming back (and it's the end of the world) Language: English Words: 10,999 Chapters: 12/12 . As for being angrier and angrier, JC had a lot of feelings he needed to unpack. [30], A female innkeeper in Yunping City confirms this account, as she tells Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji that she knows a person who once approached Lotus Pier to help him deal with a problem. [1], This, along with the fact that Jiang Fengmian holds Wei Wuxian his first night at Lotus Pier, causes Jiang Cheng to initially resent Wei Wuxian. It makes me think that he wanted to die and to stay dead. During the "Poisons" arc, Jiang Cheng is 17. So at the end, JC relinquished his "old friend" and even his character song says "Zidian has no emotions, it can't understand me. With his spiritual power sealed, Jiang Cheng holds forth Sandu and places himself in front of his nephew. Can I not hate you?! Both leave the duel cursing each other. This can't wait, please solve it soon." Wei Wuxian says as he finally rises from his bow. He has a bad temper from his youth, and his father treats him distantly, holding him fewer than five times that he can remember. For Jiang Cheng is more difficult to know because we don't see his point of view that much, but it is obvious how heartbroken and betrayed he feel everytime his brother choose other people over him. Although the presence of Hanguang-jun did help Wei Wuxian somewhat, it was far from enough. The Author knows that Jian Cheng will be detested. This might have gotten a bit off topic, but I guess my opinion would be just that JC wouldn't accept WWXs death, bcs he believed WWX has something to do, as in apologise to him on his knees and make him feel better and have a scape goat again Ehhh Yanli, why did u have to be an idiot and die Who is gonna make the lotus and disaster boy talk to each other without u . [30], Jiang Cheng takes Jin Ling in search of the man-eating castles rumored to be near Qinghe. They grew up as brothers, they both sacrificed themselves for each other, so theres some element of love and care for each other. More helpful answer: From JC's POV, WWX did a lot to personally betray him: his actions stirred the wrath of the Wen Sect leading to the death of his parents and Sect. [34], When Wei Wuxian flees from Jin Ling's spiritual dog Fairy, Jiang Cheng takes it as proof that "Mo Xuanyu" is actually Wei Wuxian. I need to know if they'll be okay! This then proceeded to be the only time they talked about their feelings lmao sure maybe they wont talk about the sacrifices theyve made for the other person, thats consistent with their characters, but really? He picked up Chenqing and refused to give it to JGY in exchange of Suibian because he knew that WWX would look for the dizi not the sword. "[2] However, after Wei Wuxian is brought to live at Lotus Pier around age nine or ten, Jiang Cheng's puppies are sent away due to Wei Wuxian's intense fear of dogs. An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works Why is it that now its like Im supposed to have wronged you?! Granted, after things were resolved - their relationship was still quite strained. Wen Ning serves as a representation of a force of good in life, and in death became a puppet to a friend & master who abused his reanimated body. Im Vietnamese so I think the text Ive read is a lot closer to the original text compared to the English version due to language similarities. He was percieved as a threat and Wen Ning acted to remove him, Wen remnants and WWX were promised amnesty if 'Wen Leaders' Wen Qing and Wen Ning would give themselves in, so it is more than likely that Wen Ning didn't lose control but was made to go berserk so the Jin clan would have a genuine reason to attack Burial Mounds and get their hands on the Seal, people say Jiang Cheng killed him, and we know how reliable rumours are.. WWX and Jiang Cheng himself deny it.._3K2ydhts9_ES4s9UpcXqBi{display:block;padding:0 16px;width:100%} Wen Qing poses as Baoshan Sanren, and Wen Ning assists his sister as she transfers Wei Wuxian's golden core into Jiang Cheng. Also, I understand it's tiresome to write about so many characters, and try insert it into the narrative. Wei Wuxian has long ago internalized his own indebtedness to the Jiang family - in a temple during a rainstorm, he says to Jiang Cheng consider it repayment for everything I owe the Jiang Clan. Wei Ying ( Wi Yng), courtesy name Wei Wuxian (, Wi Wxin) is the founder of the Demonic Cultivation and a former disciple of the Yunmeng Jiang Sect. He also suggests that she ask Wei Wuxian to choose a courtesy name for her future son. They have no weapons, they are being led to an underground cavethey were all children, including her own son, her sworn sister's son who would have been her daughters future husband. (Not sure if it was mentioned in the live action that the fight was fake). Wen Qing refuses, citing the rest of her family, whom she cannot abandon and returns the comb. She died for this dude and you're leading a siege against him? We encourage members to share their thoughts, fanworks, news and more! Why? No resolution for WWX and JC. He was certainly going to doom. [7], After the Xuanwu of Slaughter emerges, and the Wens flee, Jiang Cheng finds himself trapped in the cave alongside the others. Previously:Qinghen. I think his strongest feeling was jealousy and envy which was influenced from his mom. (Chapter 59)And protecting the Wen Remnants wasn't anything difficult, Nie Mingjue and Lan Xichen asked about the debt and Jiang Wanyin just had to tell about Wen Qing and Wen Ning risking their lives to save them, (since Nie Mingjue original words were over Wen Qing's inaction, when she in fact took action when she saved the two, that was treason against her sect, had nmj and lxc known about the treason and that her branch was innocent, they would have definitely stepped in) Its highlighted with Jin Guangshan fanning his jealousy issues, he didn't want to speak up, rather than a political issue, the sects at the time are envious that he has Wei Wuxian, a powerful necromancer in his sect, meaning they do have power. Jiang Fengmian (Father, deceased)Yu Ziyuan (Mother, deceased)Jiang Yanli (Older sister, deceased)Wei Wuxian (Senior martial brother, former)Jin Ling (Nephew)Jin Zixuan (Brother-in-law, deceased) [47], Jiang Cheng strikes Jin Ling for crying out for Jin Guangyao to run. At Langya, he has to stop Wei Wuxian from beating Jin Zixuan after a misunderstanding with Jiang Yanli pushes her to tears. I'm glad someone brought these things up. Absolutely. He begins to capture all cultivators whom he suspects are possessed by the soul of Wei Wuxian, taking them back to Lotus Pier for torture. [27], Jiang Cheng allows the survivors to return to Lotus Pier to recover their spiritual power, and did not forbid Wei Wuxian from accompanying them. And thats why he told xue Yang confidently that he wont be able to bring him back. Jiang Cheng then turns his wrath on Jin Ling, while Jin Guangyao tries and fails to pacify him. An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works Episode 1 Chapter 16 He and Wei Wuxian then force Wen Chao to bow in the direction of Lotus Pier before torturing him to death. [27], Jiang Cheng is rumored to have killed Wei Wuxian himself, but the truth is that Wei Wuxian is torn apart by spiritual backlash. He is infuriated when Lan Wangji destroys them and further infuriated when he encounters Wei Wuxian resurrected in the body of Mo Xuanyu, as Wei Wuxian has both accidentally reprimanded Jin Ling for not having a mother and used demonic cultivation. Recognizing the danger, Yu Ziyuan takes Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian to a boat and binds them with Zidian. When Wei Wuxian ventures to the market one day, Jiang Cheng notices cultivators from the Qishan Wen Clan swarming the market. three poisons; a Buddhist phrase for the root of all turmoil (greed, anger, ignorance) shngshu skilled practitioner @keyframes ibDwUVR1CAykturOgqOS5{0%{transform:rotate(0deg)}to{transform:rotate(1turn)}}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq{--sizePx:0;font-size:4px;position:relative;text-indent:-9999em;border-radius:50%;border:4px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-bodyTextAlpha20);border-left-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);transform:translateZ(0);animation:ibDwUVR1CAykturOgqOS5 1.1s linear infinite}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq,._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq:after{width:var(--sizePx);height:var(--sizePx)}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq:after{border-radius:50%}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq._2qr28EeyPvBWAsPKl-KuWN{margin:0 auto} I would guess he started to feel betrayed especially when he saw WWX with LWJ because he would have thought that WWX would come find him first.